Changing Diapers:    Rose what made you suspect of pregnancy? What were the first symptoms you had?

Paty, I just didn’t have any symptoms of pregnancy. None. I found out why I was trying to get pregnant, that’s all. I started taking the urine test the day before my menstrual delay. An almost invisible stripe appeared. Then I was in that anxiety thinking that I was “imagining” that stripe there, lol. I did the urine test for 5 days straight until finally getting the blood test. I had no nausea, bleeding from the nest, tenderness in the breasts, cramps. Nothing, none of these traditional symptoms. That was even one of my anxieties, because in my head a pregnant woman “had” to go through these troubles, lol.

Changing Diapers:    Rafael, how was it to receive the news that it would already be daddy?

It was a wonderful feeling and at the same time challenging with a chill in the belly. I have always dreamed of being a more present father than my father was in my life, due to the fact that my parents have been divorced since I was 7 (seven) years old. When Rose revealed to me that she was pregnant, the only thing that came to my mind was that our lives would change completely and that a new time would start, and if this was happening it was because God would enable us to live this new moment, so I didn’t need to worry about this new challenge of being a father.

Changing Diapers:     And how was the birth? How does it feel to see the baby for the first time?
ED: Roseane: Rafaella was born through an elective cesarean section, performed by the obstetrician who accompanied us since before the pregnancy, accompanied by my brother-in-law who is a doctor and Rafael, who was incredibly brave (I could not remain in the center in his place surgery, even if I don’t see anything, lol). It was all better than we imagined. Rafaella was born with 3,120kg and 48cm, with 39 weeks and 1 day of gestation. She was born hungry, breastfed in the first hour of life, still in the recovery room. Nothing compares to the sound of that cry and that smell of “life”. Without a doubt the best and most unforgettable experience of our lives.

Rafael: I thought that on the day of Rafaella’s birth I would be very tense with everything, however, I think I didn’t feel what I imagined going through, as Rose showed to be very calm, and thank God everything went well, exactly as planned and expected . The feeling when I saw Rafaella being born was supernatural and unique, my heart was ecstatic, because knowing that that little baby was my daughter and that now I really became a family man was a great joy. Certainly God gives us a special capacity to face the challenges that will come.

Changing Diapers:     Faith is a very strong point in you, what religious background did you have? When was the first contact with the Bible and everything it teaches?

ED Roseane: I grew up and was raised in the Catholic Church. At one point, when I was 17, I realized that I had a great emptiness inside me that for some reason had never been filled. Until one day I was invited by a friend to visit her church, whose denomination was Protestant Christian (evangelical, as many know). From the moment I entered the church until the end of the service, I was immensely touched by God. I left there not only filled, but overflowing. Since that day I knew God not only because of what people told me about Him, but because I had experiences with Him, to know Him through what He revealed himself to me!

Since that day I have had a very intimate relationship with God, very close. Rafael and I even met at this church, of which we are still a part, almost 11 years later. We have seen it so intensely that it is inevitable that the presence of God in our lives will not be reflected in our videos. And I often receive e-mail from people who, through our videos, have sought God more fervently. This is priceless to me: bringing people closer to God, regardless of religion. The Bible is an excellent book that only teaches us good things. So even those who don’t “believe” in its content should read it as a etiquette manual, how to behave, how to be a correct person, how to act with others, how to live in the private and public fields,

Rafael: I come from a practicing Catholic family, and I have always studied in colleges with a Catholic denomination, but when I was 15 I decided to spontaneously visit a church with a neo-Pentecostal evangelical denomination and with a vision for the formation of leaders, Sara Nossa Terra. I confess that I was extremely prejudiced against evangelicals, because I thought they were a very ignorant people who just read the Bible and did nothing more than go to church, but my vision was completely shaken from the first time I entered that environment. Finally, I met God and it transformed the path of my life.

Changing Diapers:  Rose how is Rafael as a father? Does he change diapers and participate or is he the type who is afraid to get the baby?  

ED: Rafael is a “competitive” father, haha. He wants to bathe her more than I do, wants to change more diapers than I do, wants to get more smiles on Rafaella than me. He is overly participatory. As he works all day, when he is at home he wants to do everything and “reward” the time he has been away. The hardest thing is for me to get her off his lap. I can only use the argument that she needs to breastfeed. I’m glad he doesn’t have that gift, otherwise I would be fried! haha

Changing Diapers:    Rafael how is Rose as a mother?

ED: Rose as a mother simply surprises me, because in addition to her dedication to wanting to learn about this universe of motherhood, she at the same time seems to me to know a lot already. men. Rose has her weaknesses and limitations as anyone, but I see that she sees this as something pleasant and not just a challenge. I see that she as a mother is even more beautiful, wiser and more perceptible to life’s situations, everything as we see our own mothers.

Changing Diapers: What did you learn after Rafaella? What is the most important lesson after a child?

ED: Our lives have changed completely after Rafaella. And changing completely does not mean that it changes for the worse, quite the opposite. Maternity-paternity makes us better and much more tolerant human beings. We certainly have to give up many things, but what we receive “in return” not in price. We made two videos talking about exactly that and I would like to invite you to watch. In them we mention the 10 things that fatherhood and motherhood have done for us. Hope you like it!

Changing Diapers:  What do you advise for couples who want to become dads? 

ED: “It is better to be two than one, because there is more reward for your work. Because if one falls, the other helps to get up ”(Ecclesiastes 4: 9-10). First of all, invest in your weddings. I see that many want to “have children” but do not want to “be parents”. To be a father and mother is to assume the responsibility of being the reference for someone else. It is to transform that baby into an adult with approved principles and character. And for that, it is very important that the couple is allied, that they decide to offer the child a structured family base. Keep in mind that marriage changes a lot after the children, but don’t allow that change to be for the worse.

Have an alliance and be accomplices to each other, grow together. I am not saying that everything will be flowers, but if you are allied and “working” as a team, everything will be easier. Of course, things don’t always happen as we dream. Sometimes the pregnancy was not planned or expected, but that does not mean that you cannot plan it from the discovery. The same goes for those who will be single mothers. I’m sure you didn’t dream of being a single mother, but if this is your reality, do your best. God will bring you empowerment and strength to be the mother your child needs. Do not freak out!

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